May 12, 2005

Fuck Real ID

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10 comments:

Charone said...

How is this so different from Social Security numbers?

Helen said...

That's a question for the G-men and company. Don't they have enough information? Why do we need yet another way for big brother to keep tabs on us? Wake up and smell the cappuccino!
Peace................

Spyder said...

Charone,
Being an American means that you don't have to show your 'papers' to the gestapo whenever they feel like stopping you on the street. Being free means just that. Being able to move around this beautiful country whenever and however you want. Read on...
I took this from 'The Register'...

Soon it will be impossible to obtain government services, travel domestically by hired car, intercity bus, train, or plane, enter a building, open a bank account, pay by check, drink at a pub, enroll in school, or obtain insurance without having your unique federal ID card scanned at the gate. The potential for mission creep, and for mass data aggregation, is absolutely unlimited. DHS can decree that photographs are not enough; it may decide that it also wants fingerprints, iris scans, and DNA information encoded in the cards, and in its massive databases. And Congress has given it the power to decree that, and more.

TWM said...

As a federal cop I am soooooo very torn by this.

On the one hand I agree that government knows way to much about us already, and I am loath to give them any more information. I don't want me looking at me in other words.

On the other hand, there is the real danger of many people who are using our freedoms to do us serious harm. And I know the old quote about giving up liberty for security and deserving neither.

Still, there is so much we could do to make us safer.

Decisions, decisions.

TWM said...

Oh yes, I always wanted to live in Vermont -- what's it like?

suzawanda said...

Vermont is a beautiful scenic verdant cow pie, cheese and maple syrup producing state, filled w/woodchucks(meaning people), beer camps filled w/drunk wildlife moidering hunters, a seemingly benign politically liberal leaning state which tries or pretends to limit growth and protect the environment (yet none of the ski area restaurants or bars recycle..go figure) but sometimes it is a quagmire of out-of-state ignorant tourists that disrespect the sacridity of the area by tossing their trash out their SUV windows and destroying the exact thing they came to admire...such a curse, yet their dinero brings in wages for the underpaid vermonters...kinda bittersweet having been a waitress in the banquet of life for so long in a ski town....I'm not bitter, I'm pissed....plus it's damn cold and Here Comes The Sun is NOT the state song...but they did just outlaw smoking in bars finally....phew...progress....lol

Mailroom Administrator said...

How is this different than Social Security? Well, you could also ask what is it that makes it the same. Look at the history on Social Security, and what I read is this, originally was volinteer basis and now look, it is a pre-req.

For those familier with fiction, is this any different than the Mutant Registration Act from X-Men? Are there not simularities between this fiction and our reality with Real ID?

This is a legal enactment one should raise an eyebrow at. People talk of how dangerous people outside from outside of the country, what about the ones here? One doesn't need to pretend to be another person to be dangerous.

And consider this, How many times has a cashier accually taken care to check to see the credit card's holder is accually the one who owns the credit card? Not many. I couldn't count any more than 3 within the last month. And that's at best. That in mind, and how poor of a reputation this so called homeland security has, combined are ID cards really going to matter? I don't think so.

And guess who has to pay the bill. No doubt the working class. No doubt each state is responsible for paying with everyone's taxxes that was not infact created by them but the federal government. The federal government if it feels it should create this ID card, should be the ones picking up the tab. Can we right this off? No probably not. Are there any real incentives for creating this for the common person. No I doubt it.

Some are using drunk driving as an argument for it. Drunk driving isn't going to be solved or helped by implimenting this. Anyone can borrow a car, steal a car, ect. A card won't stop people from getting killed. It still comes down to those responsible for acting on protecting others. There is so much to say about this, I couldn't mention all in one sitting.

gc said...

The anti-Constitution part of this law is that everyone is treated as suspects, innocent and guilty alike. The presumption of innocence does not exist when everyone is a suspect.

Spyder said...

You're absolutely right,gc!

Anonymous said...

We, the american people, dont want it, dont need it. So lets not have it.

lets call for the dissolutiion of the DHS, because we dont need them now and didnt need them before.